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Posted 6/24/2006 5:44 PM


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well said, scot.

what school was this? I want to make sure I beat them on the bloody ground.  lol

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This particular school no longer exists in this area. The owner and his wife have moved on to another city. Thanks for the comment, though.

 Scot W. Lisman

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Posted 7/2/2006 11:01 PM


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I'll put my 2 cents in here!

I feel there are 4 types of school owners;

1) the Champ - the tourney winner who pushes their students into tourney after tourney because that is what they were trained to do.  That is what they enjoy.  They are usually very good kickers, punchers and are in good shape.

2) the Teacher -  this person knows how to communicate with students.  Understands that TMA's are more than the ability to kick and punch well.  Not always a National Champ, but has solid technique and is able to pass it on to the next generation.

3) the Businessman - this person knows how to communicate with their clients, now that is not always the student - but parents.  The school will be 90 to 99% children, and will have high prices with super-multi-year contracts (we're talking 5 year +)  This person has a staff to teach, while he upgrades and smoozes with the parents.

OK the 4th type gets it.  He is a combo of all three of the previous types.  He can be a former champ - with great skill, he is a great instructor who is able to communicate effectively with his (or her) students, and they understand that to train good martial artists they must keep the doors open - thus be politicians and understand business as well. 

Adam D. Huntley
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Posted 7/4/2006 12:03 PM


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Fluffy (7/2/2006)

I'll put my 2 cents in here!

I feel there are 4 types of school owners;

1) the Champ - the tourney winner who pushes their students into tourney after tourney because that is what they were trained to do.  That is what they enjoy.  They are usually very good kickers, punchers and are in good shape.

2) the Teacher -  this person knows how to communicate with students.  Understands that TMA's are more than the ability to kick and punch well.  Not always a National Champ, but has solid technique and is able to pass it on to the next generation.

3) the Businessman - this person knows how to communicate with their clients, now that is not always the student - but parents.  The school will be 90 to 99% children, and will have high prices with super-multi-year contracts (we're talking 5 year +)  This person has a staff to teach, while he upgrades and smoozes with the parents.

OK the 4th type gets it.  He is a combo of all three of the previous types.  He can be a former champ - with great skill, he is a great instructor who is able to communicate effectively with his (or her) students, and they understand that to train good martial artists they must keep the doors open - thus be politicians and understand business as well. 

unfortunately, people (adults who want to train or kid's parents) wont really know the difference between all 4 unless they have been in the school for at least 3 months.  This is, of course, after they have signed a contract and can't get out for at least 6 or 12 months.

What do you think is the best approach for new comers?  I have always struggled to give a very good, not wishy-washy, advice to people who have asked me.  There are just too many variables.

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Posted 7/4/2006 5:40 PM


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Be up-front and honest.  Make sure they know all the little costs involved; testing, tourneys, gear, a second uniform.....whatever.  Invite parents to watch classes, the more active they are in the child’s MA training - the more comfortable they will be with a long term commitment.  Also have a 30 day intro - not one day or one week - 30 days!  That way, they may be able to see more of training before signing up on a program. 

Finally and a money back guarantee of some type 4 months max - I do two months myself, and outs for the both of you in a contract.   

The point is you want a win-win situation, if you are not both comfortable with it then you will loose the student in the long run.

Adam D. Huntley
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Snohomish Taekwondo
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I think this topic brings up a great discussion about a good teacher, and just a teacher. It's kind of like sports. Typically the best player on the court/field isn't necessarily the best coach/teacher when they try to enter the league again. However, there are those rare instructors out there that are great Sport Karate competitors who won a World Title and who happens to teach martial arts. I've been around several World Champions, and trained with and under them too, and my experience has been great instruction. For instance, my sensei - Wayne Tyler, has produced some World Champion students (myself being one), but has also won a World Title on NASKA. There has been probably a handful of instructors that won a title and are not very good teachers. Sometimes... it's all whether you have it or not. I consider myself to be a good teacher, but like the old saying goes: 'you're only as good as your last class'. So, I'm not there yet...

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