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Posted 1/5/2006 5:10 PM


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I read Sport Karate's post (http://www.martialweb.com/forums/Topic78-39-1.aspx#bm85) and got me thinking about schools out there.  This is no means an insult to anyone but want to hear what you think.  I respect all talents and those who has the focus to start a school.

After reading the post, I asked myself if a school that is owned and operated by someone who's been teaching for a while (and maybe produced some champions) is better than a school that is owned and operated by a grand champion...or vice versa.  I find it to be good toss up. 

I'm sure there are some grand masters out there who hasn't won a championship.  But being a champion doesn't mean you can teach.


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Posted 1/7/2006 12:43 PM


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  Good question!

Being a world champion is definitely a good publicity. It also shows that they have all the skills necessary to win a tournament.  Plus, it a good motivator for their students.  As long as, of course, the world champion instructor actually teaches and is motivating.

On the other hand, just because you don't have the skills to win a world champion does not mean that you are unable to develop your students into world champions.

Teaching, as with "what style is better?" type question, really depends on the individual.  You can also have an instructor that WAS a world champion 5-10 years ago and now weighs 100 lbs more than when he was competing, bad attitude, or can't show or explain techniques and philosophies well.  So, does world champion title really make a difference in the training or just in the marketing?  Think about it. 

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Posted 1/9/2006 10:42 AM


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It doesn't matter...as long as the instructor can teach well.  The rest is up to the students on how hard they want to work and how bad they want to win in tournaments.

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Posted 1/31/2006 7:47 PM


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Very good question and insight !

I have taught mixed martial arts for almost 25-years and I have to say champion type teacher v/s a true trainer !

I would go with the Trainer due to his ability to focus the fighter and his ability to see beyond what the fighter sees, as compared to a fighter who focuses on chance and drawing from risk instead of good solid knowldge concerning the fighters own technique.

Expeirance is a must and when you find a good solid trainer you will soon find out if you lissen that he has expeirance other wise how could he train anyone !

A good trainer who traines champions will tell you the champion was a good student.

Good question.

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Posted 1/31/2006 10:39 PM


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Hello Sha Poe Ryu.  First...welcome to our community.

Sha Poe Ryu (1/31/2006)
A good trainer who traines champions will tell you the champion was a good student.

Very good point...I have to remember this quote from you 

By the way, is Sha Poe Ryu a style or just a name you made up?

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Posted 2/4/2006 11:24 AM


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I agree with Sha Poe Ryu.

I would go with an instructor who create champions.  This tells you that they can teach.  Its up to the students to do the rest.

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Posted 2/5/2006 6:20 PM


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Sha Poe Ryu (1/31/2006)

I would go with the Trainer due to his ability to focus the fighter and his ability to see beyond what the fighter sees, as compared to a fighter who focuses on chance and drawing from risk instead of good solid knowldge concerning the fighters own technique.

I agree as well.  But being a trainer  does not equate being a teacher.  However, if you are talking in terms of the sports aspect of Martial arts ( Another thread altogether) then yes you need a trainer not a sensei. 

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Expeirance is a must and when you find a good solid trainer you will soon find out if you lissen that he has expeirance other wise how could he train anyone !

I disagree with this statement.  One name will come to mind:  Angelo Dundee  

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Posted 3/15/2006 9:59 AM


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anymore comments about this?  This is really good topic
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